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		<title>By: andrewlewin</title>
		<link>http://andrewlewin.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/is-the-future-micropayments/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>andrewlewin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ricci, thanks for visiting.

Wow, Napster - there&#039;s a blast from the past! Doesn&#039;t that feel like a lifetime ago?

I&#039;d be very sad to see newspapers go, I&#039;m a lifelong fan of the daily paper and worked in the magazine trade for several years. But things really are looking bleak and unless someone comes up with some ways forward, I fear for the industry - at the moment they all seem paralysed and don&#039;t know which way to turn.

In the meantime - there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://technovia.co.uk/2009/01/why-apple-will.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an interesting post on Technovia&lt;/a&gt;about how Apple may expand the App Store model for software in general for the Mac platform, which maybe factors into this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ricci, thanks for visiting.</p>
<p>Wow, Napster &#8211; there&#8217;s a blast from the past! Doesn&#8217;t that feel like a lifetime ago?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very sad to see newspapers go, I&#8217;m a lifelong fan of the daily paper and worked in the magazine trade for several years. But things really are looking bleak and unless someone comes up with some ways forward, I fear for the industry &#8211; at the moment they all seem paralysed and don&#8217;t know which way to turn.</p>
<p>In the meantime &#8211; there&#8217;s <a href="http://technovia.co.uk/2009/01/why-apple-will.html" rel="nofollow">an interesting post on Technovia</a>about how Apple may expand the App Store model for software in general for the Mac platform, which maybe factors into this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricci</title>
		<link>http://andrewlewin.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/is-the-future-micropayments/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember back in college when my friends and I used Napster and Limewire and never paid for music online. We said we couldn&#039;t imagine paying for mp3s. 

Now just seven years later, that&#039;s almost the only place I buy my music. 

I think an iNews service could work. Plus, it would provide a good platform for organizing all your different news services into one place, based on topic, region, etc. Thanks for thinking positively about the current journalism situation and figuring out solutions rather than declaring the end of newspapers, as many other sources tend to do these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember back in college when my friends and I used Napster and Limewire and never paid for music online. We said we couldn&#8217;t imagine paying for mp3s. </p>
<p>Now just seven years later, that&#8217;s almost the only place I buy my music. </p>
<p>I think an iNews service could work. Plus, it would provide a good platform for organizing all your different news services into one place, based on topic, region, etc. Thanks for thinking positively about the current journalism situation and figuring out solutions rather than declaring the end of newspapers, as many other sources tend to do these days.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewlewin</title>
		<link>http://andrewlewin.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/is-the-future-micropayments/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>andrewlewin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, while I agree that iNews doesn&#039;t have a hope in hell, I&#039;m not sure I agree with your points:

1) Registration IS a pain the neck and people hate logging in at all these sites. So it would have to be one, central system. Do it once, like with iTunes, not for each record label. As soon as the conscious mind gets invoked and starts asking questions, you&#039;ll lose the &#039;sale&#039;.

2) This is actually the reason so many people think the BBC hs to be killed - because in almost any media revenue stream, the BBC&#039;s fee-less presence distorts the market. So the trick has to be to make the pay-for stream so large and compelling, and so economical, that it stands comparison even with the BBC.

3) Again, the system has to be so easy and subconscious that then the process of cut and paste and reporting elsewhere looks like an annoying inconvenience by comparison.

4) I don&#039;t think even the most zealous free speech advocate could seriously object to an author and publisher&#039;s right to charge for their own material!

But no, I don&#039;t think for a minute iNews has a chance in hell. For one thing, the publishers would all insist on outrageous prices (either long term subs or full cover price per day&#039;s access, despite the fact that most of that cost is relating to newsprint and physical distribution.) 

Also, they&#039;ll never team up to work together - they&#039;d rather die alone than risk working with a rival. 

And finally - the technical investment to get the system working just isn&#039;t practical. Many sites have already tried subs models and got burned and dismantled them, so they&#039;re not going to try it again. 

But if they don&#039;t ... Are all these sites going to go out of business? We&#039;ll miss them when they do. It&#039;ll take an &quot;Apple of the news work&quot; to push it through in the way that Steve Jobs made it happen for music, but sadly the newspaper industry just doesn&#039;t know HOW to stay alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, while I agree that iNews doesn&#8217;t have a hope in hell, I&#8217;m not sure I agree with your points:</p>
<p>1) Registration IS a pain the neck and people hate logging in at all these sites. So it would have to be one, central system. Do it once, like with iTunes, not for each record label. As soon as the conscious mind gets invoked and starts asking questions, you&#8217;ll lose the &#8217;sale&#8217;.</p>
<p>2) This is actually the reason so many people think the BBC hs to be killed &#8211; because in almost any media revenue stream, the BBC&#8217;s fee-less presence distorts the market. So the trick has to be to make the pay-for stream so large and compelling, and so economical, that it stands comparison even with the BBC.</p>
<p>3) Again, the system has to be so easy and subconscious that then the process of cut and paste and reporting elsewhere looks like an annoying inconvenience by comparison.</p>
<p>4) I don&#8217;t think even the most zealous free speech advocate could seriously object to an author and publisher&#8217;s right to charge for their own material!</p>
<p>But no, I don&#8217;t think for a minute iNews has a chance in hell. For one thing, the publishers would all insist on outrageous prices (either long term subs or full cover price per day&#8217;s access, despite the fact that most of that cost is relating to newsprint and physical distribution.) </p>
<p>Also, they&#8217;ll never team up to work together &#8211; they&#8217;d rather die alone than risk working with a rival. </p>
<p>And finally &#8211; the technical investment to get the system working just isn&#8217;t practical. Many sites have already tried subs models and got burned and dismantled them, so they&#8217;re not going to try it again. </p>
<p>But if they don&#8217;t &#8230; Are all these sites going to go out of business? We&#8217;ll miss them when they do. It&#8217;ll take an &#8220;Apple of the news work&#8221; to push it through in the way that Steve Jobs made it happen for music, but sadly the newspaper industry just doesn&#8217;t know HOW to stay alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Seb Crump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb Crump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly important to find some way for quality news outlets and newspapers to &quot;monetize&quot; their content. However, I&#039;m not convinced that iNews could work for the following reasons:
1) linking to content to cite references is one of the fundamentals of the web, it&#039;s already difficult when there is free registration - if the content required payment people wouldn&#039;t link and therefore the participants of iNews would be self-gagging;
2) there are too many quality news sources that wouldn&#039;t join in - CNN &amp; BBC probably the biggest - where the traffic would divert. This would not only limit the coverage, but create a moral dilemma of the news being biased and skewed;
3) text is just too easy to copy - while the barrier to redistribution of MP3s is too high for most, even if there is no DRM (not an option for text) - anyone blogging on a free platform would be able to republish the news story text. I&#039;m sure there are technical solutions, but another technical arms race isn&#039;t going to help anyone really; and
4) I think it would be more than &quot;It won’t be popular at the start because people are used to getting something for nothing&quot;, the backlash from &#039;freedom of speech&#039; types who are very vocal and seem to have influence are quite prevalent on the web.

Unfortunately, I don&#039;t have a better idea at the moment. My only suggestion is that the &#039;virtual tip jar&#039; concept could be more prevalent - linked in with a system like PayPal could make micro payments more economic. But NetBeans and many others have been tried before and failed - were they just ahead of their time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly important to find some way for quality news outlets and newspapers to &#8220;monetize&#8221; their content. However, I&#8217;m not convinced that iNews could work for the following reasons:<br />
1) linking to content to cite references is one of the fundamentals of the web, it&#8217;s already difficult when there is free registration &#8211; if the content required payment people wouldn&#8217;t link and therefore the participants of iNews would be self-gagging;<br />
2) there are too many quality news sources that wouldn&#8217;t join in &#8211; CNN &amp; BBC probably the biggest &#8211; where the traffic would divert. This would not only limit the coverage, but create a moral dilemma of the news being biased and skewed;<br />
3) text is just too easy to copy &#8211; while the barrier to redistribution of MP3s is too high for most, even if there is no DRM (not an option for text) &#8211; anyone blogging on a free platform would be able to republish the news story text. I&#8217;m sure there are technical solutions, but another technical arms race isn&#8217;t going to help anyone really; and<br />
4) I think it would be more than &#8220;It won’t be popular at the start because people are used to getting something for nothing&#8221;, the backlash from &#8216;freedom of speech&#8217; types who are very vocal and seem to have influence are quite prevalent on the web.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t have a better idea at the moment. My only suggestion is that the &#8216;virtual tip jar&#8217; concept could be more prevalent &#8211; linked in with a system like PayPal could make micro payments more economic. But NetBeans and many others have been tried before and failed &#8211; were they just ahead of their time?</p>
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